Fundamentalist Religion – A HUGE Worldwide Problem

fundamentalist religionI posted my thoughts on fundamentalist religion to Facebook and decided to share it here too… Glory!

I’m depressed. There is so much hatred in the world, and sadly, much of it stems from the fact that in the 21st Century, people are still killing each other over mythological religious bullshit that ignorant men dreamed up thousands of years ago. We are still killing each other over whose Imaginary Friend is better or more powerful! Here and now in the 21st Century! I would like to think that most of us know better than that now.

fundamentalist religionFundamentalist religion is a HUGE problem here in the US and throughout the world. Fundamentalist Christians routinely use their religion to hate on gays, transgender folks, and women. It is particularly nauseating to hear hatred against gays regularly preached from the pulpits, yet these hateful, bigoted religious assholes never say a word against eating shellfish or wearing clothes made of mixed fabrics, both of which are condemned by their ancient holy book.

fundamentalist religionChristianity has been anti-woman from the word “go”. According to the ridiculous creation myths in Genesis, it was the woman, Eve, who convinced Adam to eat the magic fruit from the magic tree after the talking snake convinced her to eat it. Eve was the bad gal! Women have been getting the short end of the stick ever since, though obviously, the ridiculous mythical story never actually happened. According to the same silly ancient myth, God in his infinite love, made childbirth extremely painful for all women because Eve made the mistake of listening to a lying talking snake and she ate the magic fruit from the magic tree that God had told them not to fuck with. Religion has been used for centuries to subjugate women and relegate women to the status of second-class citizens. For a very long time, women were little more than property. And according to the Apostle Paul, they should be silent in church and they should not have positions of authority. And in the here and now of the 21st Century, religious Republican politicians are continually trying to deny women the right to decide what they can do with their own bodies! In the minds of these women-hating religious assholes, it would be better for a woman who has a legitimate need for an abortion to get it in a dark alley with a coat hanger than in a much safer modern hospital setting. I’m a guy and I don’t have a vagina, but I am 100% with the women shouting at these assholes to stay out of their vaginas! Oh, and according to many of these religious assholes, rape is consensual or the woman asked for it by the way they dressed! Holy shit!

fundamentalist religionThe Christian religion has a very long and very sad history of suppressing social progress and scientific discovery. The Bible is a flat-earth, geocentric book from cover to cover, and for centuries people believed that the earth was flat and supported by pillars because the Bible says so. And it was believed that the flat earth was covered by a solid dome firmament with the stars stuck in it because the Bible says so! It took Copernicus and Galileo to move us away from this ridiculous primitive cosmology, and the Church resisted every step of the way!

Scientific discovery was flourishing in ancient Greece and in other places in the ancient world, but then Christianity came along and snuffed it out for centuries. The Christian religion is directly responsible for that awful time in history that we know today as the Dark Ages. The Church had tremendous political power, and religious ignorance reigned supreme for centuries. The only place that science had a chance is in the Islamic world, and we owe a debt to Islam today for preserving what scientific knowledge had been gained before the Christian Dark Ages snuffed out the proverbial candle.

The Bible quite clearly teaches that mental illness is caused by demons, and that belief was used to, well, demonize the mentally ill. We know today that mental illness has genetic and environmental causes, and obviously it has nothing to do with mythological evil spirits. But, of course, this same Book claims that the cure for leprosy is a magical incantation and the blood of a slain bird…

In the Islamic world today, fundamentalist religion is still used to marginalize women and to deny them even the most basic human rights. Women have to cover themselves completely, and they can’t vote and they can’t drive a car. I’m pretty sure that in countries such as Saudi Arabia, women are still little more than property… if they do enjoy status better than that, it’s not much…

And fundamentalist religion is being used right now to justify mass murder in the form of suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism.

Isn’t it time for the RELIGIOUS MADNESS TO STOP??

Isn’t it time for the voices of REASON and SANITY to be heard above the din of religious INSANITY and HATRED??

I realize that this post will be ignored by my religious friends and it’s gotten way beyond TL;DR status anyway for most folks… but that’s my 2 cents…

I am tired of the religious hatred and insanity that is tearing this world apart! It is PAST TIME for us to throw off the chains of fundamentalist religion and this ancient mythological religious bullshit that has NO DISCERNIBLE BASIS IN REALITY, and it is time now for us to work together to build a much better and much more peaceful world!!

Again, my 2 cents… Glory!

The Journey from Christianity to Atheism

I have tried a number of times over the years to explain to people who have never walked the path from Christian –> ex-Christian –> Atheist what that journey is like and what it means to me and to others like me. It is not an easy path to travel at all. The journey from devout Christian religious belief back to the real world is one filled with doubts and questions and a great deal of strong emotion. As I explained it to my high school band director a couple of years ago or so:

My journey from devout religious belief to atheism has been a long and interesting one. I spent 15 years as a very devout fundamentalist Christian. I was the type who annoyed everybody. I wrote evangelistic letters to my family. I tried to convert my friends and co-workers. I handed out those ridiculous Chick tracts to convenience store clerks and toll booth operators. I was at church every time the doors opened, including early morning prayer meetings. I forced my beliefs on everybody all the time and though I meant well, I made a huge nuisance of myself. Despite all of that religious activity and belief, I still had questions that that seemed to have no good answers from my pastors or from the Christian apologists I read. Those questions finally built up to the point where I could no longer ignore them or write them off as coming from the devil.

In early 2000, I got on the Net as it existed back then and started researching my faith on both sides of the fence. I was absolutely stunned to find that the religious skeptics had far better answers than I had encountered from Christian apologists and I was also very surprised to see how easily they ripped my once cherished beliefs to shreds, not through ridicule but with facts. I started reading the skeptical side at www.infidels.org and went from there.

After I got over the shock of having my Christian worldview ripped out from under me, I became very very ANGRY! The fact that I was also very mentally ill at the time with not well controlled bipolar disorder didn’t help matters any. I felt foolish, used, and betrayed when I realized I had been intentionally lied to for 15 years and I had bought into it hook, line, and sinker.

Having doubts and questions about religious beliefs is normal if you are a reasonably intelligent thinking person, but in fundamentalist religion, doubting and questioning is strongly discouraged. Just pray about it and have more faith, we are told, and God will take care of it. Sounds nice, except for the fact that it isn’t true. For Christians who want answers to their questions, a whole industry of apologetics has come into being over the past few decades. For some Christians, the answers given by Christian apologists may be enough to keep them in the faith. For others like me, the answers were not satisfying. They did not resolve my doubts or my questions, so inevitably, I went looking elsewhere and found good answers that made sense to me from the place that I least expected it at the time — from the skeptical side of the fence.

I can’t speak for everyone who has made the journey from devout Christian belief to Atheism. But I can share my own personal story and what my journey was like.

I was raised United Methodist until I was ten years old. At that time, I asked my parents if I could stop attending church because I didn’t believe what they were teaching. Since we attended church mostly for social reasons anyway, they agreed. For reasons that I cannot recall now, I was back at that church when I was in my early teens for the Confirmation process. I didn’t think much about religion after that until we moved across town and I got into some interesting religious conversations with my new fundamentalist Christian neighbors. I was a teenager at the time, and Bob and Roxanne were nice people. I discussed religion with them a lot and even attended church with them at least once, but at the time religion just didn’t “take” with me. I became a typical teenage party animal and was totally turned off by religion. A few years later when I was in college, I met a guy named Mike who was a devout Christian. He shared his faith with me and I gradually became more receptive to it. Mike finally got me out to his car to read some Bible verses, and when we read Hebrews 4:12 I felt something stir inside of me, and I thought maybe there really was something to this “Jesus” stuff. Shortly after that, I went to a public showing of the Jesus Film put on by a local Baptist church. I was extremely moved by the movie, and I knew by the time that film was over that I wanted what this Jesus had to offer, and I became a Christian on March 7, 1985. My transformation from a typical teenage party animal to a devout fundamentalist Christian was rapid and dramatic. I stopped drinking and using drugs and threw myself totally and enthusiastically into my new-found faith. I made friends with the music director at the local Baptist church, and I hung out a lot with my friend Mike. We engaged in a whole lot of religious activity and talked about how wonderful and awesome Jesus was all the time. Mike introduced me tho the popular Christian music of the time, and I fell in love with Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith and particularly with Keith Green. I loved Keith Green’s music and his strong and uncompromising approach to the Christian faith. I wanted to see him in concert badly, and when Mike informed me that he was dead (plane crash in 1982), I was devastated. Shortly after my conversion, my mother bought me a nice Bible and she arranged for me to attend East Texas Baptist University in Marshall, TX. I arrived there expecting a church-like atmosphere and students who were just as devout as I was. What I found was indeed a religious school, but my fellow students, for the most part, were just typical young adults who happened to have religious beliefs. That was, I suppose, the beginning of my disillusionment and questioning. While I was at ETBU, I began to have serious doubts about my faith. I can remember a friend of mine there using his wallet as an evangelism tool. He tried to assure me that Christianity was for real and that once I was saved that was a done deal that I could never lose.

We did not know it at that time, but I had bipolar disorder that was not diagnosed and so was untreated. What began at ETBU was a cycle of swings between devout religious belief and periods of doubt and unbelief featuring severe substance abuse that I would be trapped in for 15 years of my life. I had a great time at ETBU while I was religious. I was able to put my doubts and questions aside enough that I could keep the faith, at least for a while. I had a great time traveling across the border to Louisiana for Christian concerts featuring the stars of the time. I particularly remember seeing a band called Cruse 2 and Mylon LeFevre and Broken Heart. Mylon’s music was awesome and I loved the sincerity with which he delivered his message. I jammed for Jesus to their music for years! Back home near Houston, TX I went with my friend Mike to see Michael W. Smith and Mylon LeFevre and Broken Heart. I had some really fun times in my younger Christian days! Here’s just a sample of his music from back in those days. I still love the music, though I no longer believe the message.

I had my first bout of doubt and unbelief while I was at ETBU and I started drinking and using drugs again — at a Christian school! Needless to say, they were not happy with me, and they kicked me out after the first summer semester of 1986. If I remember correctly, it was officially an academic suspension because I was not doing well in my classes.

Back home in the Brazosport area of Texas, I soon found a really fun church — Church on the Rock in Brazoria, TX. It was located several miles out of town on Hwy 521. It was a very fun place as churches go. I made friends with the pastor and other leaders of the church, and loved the Charismatic-style praise and worship services, and for a while I participated in the praise and worship choir. I sang solos frequently, and when I could manage to drag my young body out of bed early enough, I attended the 6:00 am prayer meetings. At that time, I was engaging in a great deal of religious activity. I prayed a lot, I worshiped for hours daily, I read my Bible frequently, and I told everyone who would listen about Jesus. I also frequently handed out those Chick tracts, which I thought were an awesome evangelism tool at the time. But even with all of that religious activity, doubts were creeping in. I suppose I could never see the connection between my cherished religious beliefs and the real world, and I know now of course, that that is because there is no connection between religious belief and the real world. I never read anything in the Bible that made me question my beliefs because at that time I had not been exposed to much of the Old Testament, other than scripture that was supposed to be about Jesus. I remember at one early morning prayer meeting, I was so filled with doubt and unbelief that my friend Mike had to pray me through to belief again so that I could enjoy the rest of the prayer meeting. I guess I found it hard to believe in God at 6:00 am in the morning. 🙂 There was also a time during one particular praise and worship service that I was so filled with doubts about the reality of it all that I couldn’t enjoy the service, but everybody else was experiencing a “powerful move of God”, as if we were getting a small taste of what Heaven would be like. Everyone else was awed by how awesome God was, but I felt nothing. I remember testifying later in that service about how I had missed out on the blessing of the awesome worship service, but that God had blessed me anyway. I don’t remember now how I thought God had blessed me or what I said, though. That church was fun. We had slogans for each year such as “Storm the Gate in ’88” and “Draw the Line in ’89”. A few times, the pastor allowed me to spend the night at the church. I played Christian music through their awesome sound system and prayed and worshiped and sought God all night long. At the time, it was an awesome experience, and I was grateful that the pastor trusted me enough to leave me alone in his church all night.

By the time the early 1990’s rolled around, I was working for my mother at her travel agency in Lake Jackson, TX and I had found a new church that I also enjoyed — Brazosport Christian Center. I made friends with the pastor there too, and I sang solos there as well, though not as frequently as I had at Church on the Rock. I made many good friends at both churches, and we all had a great time hanging out together. In 1992, I had the opportunity to perform one of my favorite songs at the time, Dallas Holm’s “Rise Again” at the Brazosport College Follies. I still have the video of that performance:

The next several years I was still a believer, but I was not nearly as religious as I had been when I was a bit younger. But I still believed in God and I still believed that the Bible was His Word. But by early 2000, my doubts and questions had built up to the point that I could no longer write them off to tricks of the devil, and I was not getting good answers from Christian apologists. As I related earlier, I got on the Net as it existed in early 2000, and went looking for information that was critical of the Bible and the Christian religion. I honestly was not expecting to find much. After all, the Bible was the inerrant, infallible Word of God, so what could really be said against it that was valid? I stumbled across http://www.infidels.org and I quickly began to get an education. I found my cherished Christian religious beliefs brought into serious question and basically debunked not with ridicule or derision but with solid evidence and facts. I soon also discovered http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net and my education continued. The author of that site unemotionally but thoroughly debunked the Bible and showed it for what it really is — a collection of ancient religious mythology, most of which was written anonymously. I became aware for the first time that Adam and Eve were not real historical people but rather they were part of an ancient creation myth that makes no sense to modern minds when taken literally. I learned that the first eleven chapters of Genesis are pure mythology. I was exposed to parts of the Old Testament that I had never laid eyes on before, and I learned that on numerous occasions that God had either ordered or directly committed mass murder and genocide. I began to learn that the character of the God of the Bible is not loving as I had been taught. I learned about failed prophecy in the Bible, and that was a shocker at the time because I had been told that fulfilled prophecy was a proof that God had inspired the Bible and that Jesus was the Messiah. I learned many things that brought the beliefs that I had held as Christian into very serious doubt. When I looked into what Jews had to say about Jesus, I was shocked again at how easily they proved from their own scriptures and religious beliefs and traditions that Jesus was not their long-awaited Messiah. I learned also that the two contradictory creation myths found in the book of Genesis have no scientific basis, that the Noah’s Ark story was borrowed from the much earlier Epic of Gilgamesh, the Exodus event never happened, that the events depicted in the Tower of Babel story is not how different languages came into being, and much more. I learned about the hundreds of meaningful contradictions contained in the Bible, which are graphically illustrated here. I learned about the atrocities in the Bible and also about the absurdities in the Bible, many of which I now find hilarious. For example, the book of Leviticus makes the claim that insects have four legs (Leviticus 11:20) and Psalms makes the claim that snails melt (Psalm 58:8). The Bible also clearly teaches a flat earth (see Isaiah 40:22 and Daniel 4:11 and Matthew 4:8), and the first chapter of the book of Genesis depicts a solid dome firmament (Genesis 1:7) with the stars stuck in it covering our flat world, which is supported by pillars (I Sam. 2:8).

While I was discovering all of these things and processing this new knowledge, I had some strong emotions to deal with. I became very, very angry that I had been sold a pack of ancient myths and lies for 15 years of my life and that I had mistook them for Divine Truth. I was rapidly losing my belief in God and I was realizing that Jesus was not and could not have been God in the flesh. He did not rise from the dead and he was not alive forevermore in heaven. Losing religious faith is a very painful and very emotional process. I didn’t just wake up and decide one day that I no longer believed in God and that I was no longer a Christian. It was a process that took months, and once I was no longer a believer, processing the anger and rage and betrayal that I felt for having years of my younger life stolen from me by a cult took several years to process, and it was not helped by the fact that I was dealing with serious mental illness at the time. It took a lot of research and a lot of time and a lot of thought for me to make the journey from devout Christian religious belief to atheism and the real world.

Leaving the Christian faith and becoming an ex-Christian does not automatically mean becoming an atheist, though that’s what it meant for me. Many former Christians find other faiths that they are happy with. I no longer find the Bible believable as the “word” of a God and my beliefs about Jesus have changed from “He was and is God in the flesh” to the much more realistic and mainstream among serious Bible scholars “he was an ancient Jewish apocalyptic preacher” who was the historical person behind the myths we find about him in the Bible.

There are five stages of grief that are generally recognized as valid, and I had to go through every single one of them as a part of losing my religious faith. I wrote about it recently on the http://www.ex-christian.net forums and I’ll re-post it here for your consideration. I apologize for the overlap and repeat of some of what I have already had to say.

The first stage of loss/grief is Denial and Isolation. I can’t really say I was in denial for very long about there being serious problems with my faith, but when I first started looking for information that was critical of the Bible, I honestly didn’t expect to find much! After all, the Bible was the Word of God, so what could unbelievers really have to say about it that would mean anything? I seriously roll my eyes now that I was once so uneducated and so naive, but I guess we all have to start somewhere. I believed that the Bible was the “inerrant, infallible Word of God” for many years because I was told that it was by people that I trusted at the time to tell me the truth. I had never actually read the vast majority of the Bible for myself, but the inerrancy of scripture was a major doctrine and for a long time I accepted it with little, if any, questioning. I was even quite impressed at the time with apologists such as Grant Jeffrey, whom I thought did a glorious job of defending the Bible as God’s Word. Anyway, when I came across sites such as www.infidels.org and www.rejectionofpascalswager.net I was shocked to discover how easily the Bible and my once-cherished Christian beliefs were ripped to shreds, and it was done not through ridicule, but with good evidence, the latest biblical scholarship, and verifiable facts. I can’t say that I was in much denial about what I was discovering because what I was discovering about the Bible I was also discovering that Christians couldn’t logically or rationally or factually refute, but I did isolate myself a lot. I spent hours on the internet with my glorious 56k modem connection, reading and researching and learning everything I could that was true and factual about the Bible and the Christian religion.

The second stage of loss/grief is Anger. After I got over the initial shock of discovering that the Bible was absolutely not inerrant or infallible, that it contained many ancient myths, and that it was definitely not authored by God, I became very, very ANGRY. All I could feel for quite a while when I thought about religion was ANGER and BLISTERING RAGE!!! Back around 2002, I put my first “Religion is Bullshit” website online, and with webmaster Dave’s glorious suggestion to turn it into a blog (those were new at the time), it ended up becoming quite popular. I ran that site until August of 2004, and much of what I posted reflected the DEEP RAGE that I felt for being lied to, brainwashed, indoctrinated, and severely psychologically damaged for 15 years of my life. I was ANGRY that I had wasted so many of my younger years trying to please a nonexistent god who never gave me any feedback, and that I had wasted so much time and emotional energy worrying about sin and worrying about whether I was really saved or not, and about my family and friends going to hell. And, once I realized the morally reprehensible nature of the concept of Hell, I was shocked with myself that I had ever bought in to such a demented and evil concept as being for real and that I had thought my loving God would send anyone there, much less my family and friends, all of whom were and are good people. The flip side of my anger about Hell was anger and deep disappointment that Heaven was not for real. I was so mentally ill at the time and I was so looking forward to that wonderful place where God would wipe away all of my suffering and tears, and I would live forever with Him in eternal joy, happiness, and total bliss. And then… I realized that it was all just an ancient myth. That realization was extremely difficult to accept, and I stayed angry about it for a long time. And, of course, letting go of belief in God was extremely difficult too. I was very ANGRY that God was not actually real and that I had spent so many years of my life loving and worshiping a nonexistent being. Then, once I became aware of the many atrocities in the Old Testament that portray God repeatedly ordering or directly committing mass murder and genocide, I was ANGRY that I had been taught that God was Love, and that I had believed it so strongly for so long. There is no way now that I can accept the God of the Bible as loving, given what I know about the Old Testament, and even how he is portrayed in the New Testament. In Acts 5, God murders two people simply for lying to him about their finances, and if the book of Revelation were to come true in our modern world, billions of non-Christian people would die horribly and then be sent to an eternal hell to be tormented endlessly without any hope of reprieve, forever. This is a loving God? I don’t think so… And what about Jesus? I trusted him as my loving Lord and Savior for years! I never once thought about the fact that it was him who introduced the morally reprehensible concept of Hell to scripture, and I never once heard in church about how Jesus said we had to literally hate our families to truly be his disciples (Luke 14:26), and I certainly never heard that he ordered those who refused to follow him to be killed in front of him (Luke 19:27). And what about hacking off body parts that cause you to sin (Matthew 5)? Sure, I read that many times, but with my Jesus Goggles firmly in place, and I never gave it much, if any, critical thought.

The third stage of loss/grief is Bargaining. I can’t really say that I did a lot of bargaining, but I did still desperately want God to real and for Jesus to really be real and Alive in Heaven forevermore. I am sure that I did some bargaining in the form of prayer, asking God to prove Himself to me in a way that would be undeniable. Of course, he never did…

The fourth stage of loss/grief is Depression. I did indeed experience a great deal of depression when I realized that the Bible was mostly ancient myth and legend, that there is no God and that the God depicted within the pages of the Bible was not good or loving, and that there was no heaven wonderful beyond description waiting for me after I died. Depression and anger, at least for me, were two sides of the same coin, and I spent years flipping between them. Some of that, of course, was due to my bipolar illness, but a lot of it was a normal part of working through the loss of my God and my once-cherished religious beliefs.

The fifth and final stage of loss/grief is Acceptance. This is largely where I am now, and I bless the Lard mightily for it! Glory! When I write about religion here or on my glorious website or on Facebook, I do still often write with great passion and emotion, and sometimes I take trips back to the Anger phase of loss/grief, but I always end up coming back pretty quickly to Acceptance once I had done my writing and had my say. I have come to accept the fact that there very likely is no God and that there very likely is no afterlife waiting for us after we die. We just simply cease to exist, in all likelihood, and I am at peace with that probable reality now. Knowing that life is incredible and amazing and fun — but TEMPORARY — has given me reason to wring every last bit of happiness and joy and fun out of it that I can in the HERE and NOW! It has given me reason to show my loved ones how much I care about them NOW! I enjoy my life IMMENSELY with no religious or spiritual beliefs and no reference to God. It took me many years to work through the stages of loss/grief to finally arrive at Acceptance. I stayed ANGRY for years. But now, I am completely and gloriously FREE of religion! I am absolutely FREE of all religious fears! I am free to be ME and to enjoy the one life I have on this earth FULLY, with nothing held back and with no worries about pissing Jesus off or angering his father (who is also somehow magically Him). I don’t have much money and right now I am just beginning to work on building my health coaching career, but I am HAPPY, and I feel extremely grateful to webmaster Dave for creating this glorious site (his blog and these glorious forums), and I feel extremely grateful to have so many online friends here who share the bond of having left religious belief behind in favor of the REAL WORLD and who love me and accept me exactly as I am!

I am not really that angry about the years that I spent as a Christian believer now. Yes, I wish that things could have been different, but I think we all have some regrets in life once we have lived long enough. I am quite happy now as an ex-Christian atheist, and I firmly believe that the best approach to life is facing the real world exactly as it is — as brutal as that can be at times — instead of hiding from it through religious belief. Even the hardest blows in life, such as the deaths of loved ones — should be faced head on. There very likely is no afterlife waiting on us after we die. When people die, they really die and are gone forever. That’s why it is so important to spend as much time as we can with those we love and to grab every moment of life where we are here to enjoy it!

I apologize if this post has seemed rambling and somewhat disjointed. That’s a natural result of trying to cover thirty years of life and changing beliefs and thought and research in one post that is reasonable in length. But I hope I have conveyed at least to some extent what it is like to travel the road from Christianity –> ex-Christian –> Atheist, and to some extent why I am no longer a Christian believer..

For those who may be interested, I wrote a book in 2013 on my experiences with religion and bipolar disorder. I am happy to make it freely available to my readers.

Bipolar Religiosity – Bipolar Disorder and My Religious Experience

http://alaskanatheist.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Bipolar-Religiosity-Bipolar-Disorder-and-My-Religious-Experience.pdf

I hope this post has been helpful to those who have not been in our shoes to make the journey from Christianity to Atheism. It can be hard to understand the life experiences of people who have lived through things that you have never had to experience. Trying to explain mental illness is difficult to relate to someone who has never had experience with it. In the same way, explaining the journey from religious belief to the lack of it can be difficult to relate, but I hope I have succeeded here at least to some degree.

I am extremely happy now and I enjoy life immensely with no reference to God or to any religious or spiritual beliefs whatsoever. I find the real world exactly as it really is interesting, exciting, and enthralling. Life is amazing and fun and very enjoyable indeed, but it is not permanent. It is a very precious thing because it is temporary and impermanent. Enjoy this life while you have it. There is no good evidence that there is another one waiting for us on the other side of the grave.

A Universe Made Just for Us?

Back when I was a Christian believer, I used to buy into creationist arguments about how fine-tuned our world seems to be for human life. But… now I know better. I won’t get into debunking fine-tuning arguments in this post, as that is not the point of it. But, for further reading see:

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2012/07/problems-with-fine-tuning-argument.html

And also this glorious link:

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Fine-tuning_argument

What I really want to make a point of is that we now know that we live in a universe that is almost unimaginably vast. It contains billions of galaxies which all contain millions of stars and likely millions of planets as well. Since I am not a cosmologist, I am certainly open to having those numbers corrected, if need be. But suffice it to say that our universe is ENORMOUS. And to think now that it was created with us humans in mind is sheer folly. It is ridiculous in the extreme. As Carl Sagan said so beautifully:

“Look again at that dot. That’s here. That’s home. That’s us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every “superstar,” every “supreme leader,” every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we’ve ever known.”

This glorious image contains millions of galaxies:

space

This was all made for us? I don’t think so… humans cannot survive for very long in the cold and vacuum of outer space without protection from it and, while we know of quite a few exoplanets now, not a single one that I am aware of is likely to be able to support life as we know it. The vast majority of our universe is hostile to life as we know it, so how could it have really been made with us in mind? I happen to love the entertainment phenomenon known as Star Trek. I am a dyed in the wool Trekkie, though not as hardcore as some. But right now that show is pure science fiction. We are not anywhere close to having the kind of technology that the people of the Star Trek universe take for granted. It may be a good while before we have good evidence that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe and we join some sort of benevolent federation of planets.

Anyway, my 2 cents… there simply is no credible evidence that a God of any kind actually exists, and it is glaringly obvious that this universe was not created with us in mind…

Cosmology and Genesis 1:1 – Part 2

Ok then… the expanding universe.

Back in the late 1920’s and early 30’s astronomers began to find that other galaxies were moving away from our own galaxy, the Milky Way. As telescopes improved and deeper surveys of inter-galactic space accumulated more data, it was also found that whole clusters and superclusters of galaxies were all streaming away from us. No matter where they looked and no matter in what direction, the situation was always the same. Everything in deep space appeared to be receding from us.

It was quickly realized that if all the other galaxies were moving away from us today, then they’ll be further away tomorrow and must have been closer to us yesterday. Extrapolating backwards thru time the scientists concluded that billions of years ago all of the galaxies in the universe must have been crowded into a very small volume of space indeed. Running the clock back further and further meant that density of stars and galaxies must have increased exponentially!

Compressing the mass of trillions of stars into a smaller and smaller volume like this increased the temperature too. Can you see where this is going, men? Eventually the heat and density become so great that all matter dissolves, atoms break down into protons, neutrons and electrons and then even these get split up into quarks and gluons. The details can be found here… http://en.wikipedia….rk–gluon_plasma Anyway, eventually the heat and density become infinitely high.

Whammo!!! We’ve just arrived at the Big Bang!

Yep! We’ve just run the film of the universe’s history backwards – to Time Zero / Space Zero.

This is what mega-brains like Stephen Hawking mean when they say that there was no time or space before the Big Bang. There is no “before”. All of space and time are theorized to have burst out of “nothing”, about 13.8 billion years ago.

Now let’s jump forward to today.

It’s 2013 and astronomers have umpteen terabytes of data about the expanding universe. The galaxies, galactic clusters and superclusters all seem to be racing away from us. But is that really so… or is it just another visual effect, much like Bob and Jim’s horizon not being a real edge of anything? Or our galaxy, the Milky Way, not really being at the center of everything? Could it be that it just looks as if all the galaxies are rushing way from us, when something else is happening?

The answers are… Yes, this is just a visual effect.

All those galaxies aren’t just moving away from us – they’re also moving away from each other too. So it only looks as if we’re in the plumb center. To explain I’ll use three things. The Milky Way (our home galaxy), the Andromeda galaxy (our closest neighbor) and the Virgo Supercluster (the nearest mega-group of galaxies).

Most people think that an expanding universe means this. (Btw, the colors don’t mean anything.)

Ten million years ago.

<------ Virgo <------ Milky Way ------> Andromeda ——>

Today.

<---------- Virgo <---------- Milky Way ----------> Andromeda ———->

Ten million years in the future.

<--------------- Virgo <--------------- Milky Way ---------------> Andromeda —————>

We stay fixed and unmoving in the center of everything, while everything else expands away from us. Wrong!

This is what’s actually happening.

Ten million years ago.

<------> Virgo <------> Milky Way <------> Andromeda <------>

Today.

<----------> Virgo <----------> Milky Way <----------> Andromeda <---------->

Ten million years in the future.

<---------------> Virgo <---------------> Milky Way <---------------> Andromeda <--------------->

Everything is moving away from everything else.

It’s the the space between galaxies that’s expanding, carrying along each galaxy with it. Even though it looks like it’s all expanding from us outward, that’s not so. I’ve placed us into center, but there’s no real need for me to do that. Why? Because as I wrote in my earlier message, the universe has no center and no edge. Therefore, I could just as easily do this…

Ten million years ago.

<------> Milky Way <------> Virgo <------> Andromeda <------>

Today.

<----------> Milky Way <----------> Virgo <----------> Andromeda <---------->

Ten million years in the future.

<---------------> Milky Way<---------------> Virgo <---------------> Andromeda <--------------->

…and still be correct.

We are moving away from the Virgo supercluster, just as much as it is moving away from us and from Andromeda. Nothing is fixed and nothing is absolute. Everything is relative. There is no ultimate frame of reference which all things can be mapped out against. This explains why astronomers have no choice but to map out the universe from our p.o.v. The Earth is the only place we can observe from, so every other galaxy just seems to be moving away from where we’re looking from.

In reality, every square inch and square light-year of the universe is expanding.

We are NOT in the center. That’s just a trick of perspective.


Btw, here’s a nice pic for you.

It’s from that atom-smasher over in Europe, the Large Hadron Collider. They’ve succeeded in re-create the heat and density of the Big Bang – this being a mini-version of the Quark-Gluon plasma (fireball) that theory says should have existed when everything burst into existence out of nothing.

So, theory and experiment seem to agree!

quark-gluon-plasma2

Part 3 is coming soon! Glory!

Cosmology and Genesis 1:1 – Part 1

This is the first in a series of posts exploring the effects of modern cosmological knowledge on the validity of the Bible. It is an ongoing discussion between me and two other people (BAA & WP) at the ex-Christian.net forums. BAA is an amateur astronomer, and he has done his best to simplify a very complex subject. Some of the technical details in this discussion have necessarily been glossed over. BAA started the discussion off by asking us to consider this question:

Two sailors, Bob and Jim, are on their yachts – one in the Atlantic and one in the Pacific.

They are hundreds and hundreds of miles from the nearest land or island. All they can see is the sky above them and water, extending to their respective horizons. Now, please consider these questions:

1. Is Bob’s horizon literally the edge of his world, which he could sail right off or is it just a visual effect of the curvature of the Earth, with the Atlantic carrying on beyond the limits he can see?

2. Same question, but applied to Jim, in the Pacific.

3. Allowing for time zone differences and the weather, if Bob and Jim could instantly swap places, would they notice anything significantly different in their ‘new’ locations?

BAA then followed up by giving us these links, which discuss the Copernican and Cosmological principles, for consideration:

http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Copernican_principle.html

http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/copernican_principle.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_principle

My answer to BAA after reading the information at the above links was this:

Thanks, but that is some really deep stuff. I like science and cosmology but have a hard time comprehending it all. I do better with liberal arts subjects. lol… I will read over it a few more times.

BAA’s answer to me was as follows:

Don’t fret Jeff!

I’ve cited this technical stuff so that you can see that what I’m planning to explain here is kosher, supported by by hard science and reliable… that’s all! I never got as far as college and I don’t get the math behind it all, either. Anyway, let’s start off with Bob and Jim.

The answer to question #1 is obviously, No.

Bob’s horizon is just a visual limit to how far he can see. There’s no actual edge or end of the world for him to sail his boat off. Ditto for #2 and Jim. They both have their own horizon’s and neither of these is where their world comes to and abrupt edge or end. So, the obvious answer to #3 is that they’d notice no real difference, if they swapped places instantly.

Now, this is more or less the same kind of answers we get if we apply the Copernican and Cosmological Principles, when we look out into space. Just as Bob and Jim see themselves as the center of their reality, so we on Earth see something similar. Let’s ask ourselves another question. If we could instantly teleport ourselves a trillion light-years in any direction to another Earth-like planet, what would we see when we looked up at the sky?

Pretty much the same as we see from Earth.

That’s because the universe looks generally the same wherever you go and whatever direction you look in. The big words scientists use are homogeneity and isotropy, but in a nutshell, these mean that everything is more or less the same, everywhere. There’s no definable center to the universe. It just looks as if we’re at the center.

But don’t be fooled by appearances!

We know that Bob and Jim see themselves as being at the center of everything, when of course, they aren’t. It just looks that way to them. This is a visual effect of their fixed p.o.v. from onboard their yachts. Even if they swap places they still see themselves as being in the center of their reality. Wherever they go, they’ll always see things that way. And this explains why, if we instantly jumped a trillion light-years to another planet, this new p.o.v. would still seem to us to be the center of everything.

Another way of visualizing this is to think of yourself in a vast forest.

Wherever you look there’s nothing but trees to be seen. Walk ten miles in any direction and you see the same thing. Take a right-angle turn and go another ten miles… same result. Double back or choose a random direction. Go ten miles or a thousand, it makes no difference. Same result. If this forest isn’t just vast, but covers the e-n-t-i-r-e surface of the Earth (no seas’ lakes or rivers) all you will ever see is the same thing, no matter where you go and no matter what your viewpoint is. There will be no end and you can walk forever around the world, always seeing nothing but trees, trees and more trees.

This is, roughly speaking, what we see in space.

Anywhere you go, it looks generally the same. The universe has no definable center. What we see as the edge of the universe isn’t a physical edge – just as Bob and Jim’s horizons aren’t physical edges. The edge of the observable universe is just the limit of how far we can see. In their case, it was the curvature of the Earth that limited how far they could see. In our case, what’s limiting us is the finite speed of light.

I’m (just) old enough to remember Nixon’s call to Aldrin and Armstrong on the Moon, back in ’69.

The was a 1.25 second delay between them that made their conversation weirdly drawn out. Why? Because radio signals, like light, take a finite time to go anywhere. We see the Moon as it was 1.25 seconds ago – not as it is right NOW! We see the Sun as it was about 8 minutes ago. The signals from our Mars rovers can take up to 20 minutes to reach us. Voyager’s transmissions take hours to get here. The nearest bright star, Alpha Centauri, appears to us as it was in the middle of 2009. Why? Because it’s light takes 4.3 years to reach us – that’s why.

The Andromeda galaxy? It’s 2.5 million light-years away and so we see it as it was …2.5 million years ago.

Looking out into space means looking back in time. There’s no way round this. Because light, radio, X-rays and every other type of radiation travels at a fixed and limited speed, we’ll always see the universe as it was – never as it is, right NOW! Therefore, since the universe is 13.8 billion years old, we can’t see any further than that. This is the limit of our observable universe. It’s our visual horizon, the cosmic equivalent of Bob and Jim’s resepctive horizons on Earth.

So, the edge of our universe is a purely visual edge, nothing more.

The universe doesn’t just stop existing beyond that point any more than the Atlantic or Pacific oceans stop existing beyond the limits of Bob and Jim’s vision.

The main point to understand today is this.

There’s no scientific basis for assuming that we live in the center of the universe. It just looks as if we do. But once we understand that the universe looks the same from anywhere and everywhere, we can appreciate that the Earth isn’t central and isn’t special. Once we see that viewpoints can be instantly swapped without moving us any nearer to or further from the center (because there is no center), we have to conclude that our position in the universe isn’t privileged or important at all.

Part 2 is coming soon! Glory!